Comments on: Chomsky Conspiracy – Is Chomsky Another Pawn of the Illuminati? http://www.illuminatirex.com View the World from Within the All-Seeing Eye Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:17:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Joshua Ian Handfinger http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-49262 Joshua Ian Handfinger Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:26:20 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-49262 lastly, the ILLUMINATI? hmmmmm....just curious has anyone here ever read the book "the illuminatus trilogy" by robert anton wilson and robert shea. i think the ideas of these man could bring some clarity to what we are ttalking about and disagreeing on :> lastly, the ILLUMINATI? hmmmmm….just curious has anyone here ever read the book “the illuminatus trilogy” by robert anton wilson and robert shea. i think the ideas of these man could bring some clarity to what we are ttalking about and disagreeing on :>

]]> By: Joshua Ian Handfinger http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-49260 Joshua Ian Handfinger Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:23:16 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-49260 oh another thought.   to chazworth who said "it seems to me that people that think critically could not follow the ideas and mentalities of the new ZioNazi fascists"   you are wondering why chomsky, such a critically thinking person, follows "the ideas and mentalities of the new zionasi fascists">   you are using a very loaded term right there ZIONIST/NAZI fascists. you also haven't explained what you  mean by this vague hybrid term. personally as a jewish american, i detest and oppose the israeli government, because their policies are misguided/racist and undermine the middle east peace process, and because they are essentially a government that is a state terrorist organizaton (which is what nomsky argues also) CHOMSKY HAS ALWAYS BEEN CRITICAL of the Israeli government/ZIONIST crap policy imperialist bullshit. But you are accusing CHOMSKY of buying into  a ZIONIST/NAZI MENETALITY? if u ready any chomsky you would have seen he is totally opposed to israeli gov. policies, he views israel as a terrorist organization against palestinians, and would agree with your views although you also used the term NAZIS (which i agree ISRAEL is actually doing to the palestinians in some ways what THE NAZIs did to us jews),...but you can't just go throwing around the term nazis to any kind of fascism. use the term fascism/militiarism/imperialism,, but don't overuse and abuse the term nazism because that specifically was about nazi germany. fascism takes many forms, nazism was one example in germany specificaly) so it offends me as a jewish person for others to abuse the term nazism, just as it woulld be offensive for me to associate anything with the CATHOLIC CHURCH as evil. there are many progressive catholics, so r they all evil because back in the day the inquisition burned the jews at the stake? anyway , ,the reason why i think you may beleive chomsky to be supporting the "zionists" (u should just say israeli government) is maybe cause he has been skeptical about the911 truth movement and he said things that seemed to show that may be he is very dismissive of ideas that there is a coverup (and i disagree with him or at least what he said because i think now the evidence shows that a there was a coverup and B - another investigation is needed cuz the evidence does not match the story given by bush cheney and thheir administration "engineers".  im assuming this is what you meant by chomsky buying into "zionism/nazism". but i'm not sure either. may be yo ushould explain yourself more, and also if you are going to say a jewish person is subscribing to ZIONAZISM, you should explain and use actual specific words instead of throwing around words which sort of make no sense because you obviously did not read chomskys extensive critical writings on ISRAELI POLICY oh another thought.
 
to chazworth who said “it seems to me that people that think critically could not follow the ideas and mentalities of the new ZioNazi fascists”
 
you are wondering why chomsky, such a critically thinking person, follows “the ideas and mentalities of the new zionasi fascists”>
 
you are using a very loaded term right there ZIONIST/NAZI fascists. you also haven’t explained what you  mean by this vague hybrid term.
personally as a jewish american, i detest and oppose the israeli government, because their policies are misguided/racist and undermine the middle east peace process, and because they are essentially a government that is a state terrorist organizaton (which is what nomsky argues also) CHOMSKY HAS ALWAYS BEEN CRITICAL of the Israeli government/ZIONIST crap policy imperialist bullshit.
But you are accusing CHOMSKY of buying into  a ZIONIST/NAZI MENETALITY? if u ready any chomsky you would have seen he is totally opposed to israeli gov. policies, he views israel as a terrorist organization against palestinians, and would agree with your views although you also used the term NAZIS (which i agree ISRAEL is actually doing to the palestinians in some ways what THE NAZIs did to us jews),…but you can’t just go throwing around the term nazis to any kind of fascism. use the term fascism/militiarism/imperialism,, but don’t overuse and abuse the term nazism because that specifically was about nazi germany. fascism takes many forms, nazism was one example in germany specificaly)
so it offends me as a jewish person for others to abuse the term nazism, just as it woulld be offensive for me to associate anything with the CATHOLIC CHURCH as evil. there are many progressive catholics, so r they all evil because back in the day the inquisition burned the jews at the stake?
anyway , ,the reason why i think you may beleive chomsky to be supporting the “zionists” (u should just say israeli government) is maybe cause he has been skeptical about the911 truth movement and he said things that seemed to show that may be he is very dismissive of ideas that there is a coverup (and i disagree with him or at least what he said because i think now the evidence shows that a there was a coverup and B – another investigation is needed cuz the evidence does not match the story given by bush cheney and thheir administration “engineers”.  im assuming this is what you meant by chomsky buying into “zionism/nazism”. but i’m not sure either. may be yo ushould explain yourself more, and also if you are going to say a jewish person is subscribing to ZIONAZISM, you should explain and use actual specific words instead of throwing around words which sort of make no sense because you obviously did not read chomskys extensive critical writings on ISRAELI POLICY

]]> By: Joshua Ian Handfinger http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-49259 Joshua Ian Handfinger Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:08:14 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-49259 When finished reading this comic, it made me laugh in a very good and thought provoking way. But it made me think of how funny it would be if Chomsky was actually a machine/man, made by the Pentagon and CIA, to test out theories of social change in human society by introducing this machine/man who provides the people with a platform to analyze critically and become critically aware of the pentagon/CIA's imperialism and the unholy alliance of multinational global corporate capitalism (financial elites) with the Pentagon/U.S. government/CIA/FBI.etc.....as a way to understand the human populace and to test counterinsurgency on it. hahhaha!  as a trick essentially...or a trojan horse so to speak :> LOL   as for an actual serious discussion on CHomsky and his VALUES, in response to what CHAZworth wwrote, i have some interesting ideas to you as I have read chomsky's work thoroughly,. Chazworth wrote - "what i do not understand is why he would be so outwardly critical of the system. or is it to make conspiracy people follow him and distract from the truth? one wonders how Helen Thomos was ousted so easy and Chomsky keeps his position" when i read this, i'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say. you are questioning CHOMSKY's intentions i guess? CHOMSKY, a scientist but also as  jewish american (i am both also), i understand his perspective because he looks at the world scientifically but grounded in actual science and logic. THis is how he looks at language (and he revolutionized scientific understanding of LANGUAGE back in the 50's for people who really want to understand who they are talking about.)   anway, many jewish americans (not exclusively jews of course haha) and also scientists look at the world using an scientific method/logical/objective  CRITICAL framework. CHomsky used the same framework/perspective of critical analysis to POWER STRUCTURES ie the poltiical/social/economic power structures in our socities. So i think for someone to wonder to themselves, wow why is this guy so critical? Its because A- Hes a scientist, so he looks at things objectively AND Critically ( basically you as a scientist filter out the illogic or faulty perceptions of reality by doing experiments in sound logic to prove a testable hypothesis. He applied this same of thinking to OUR POWER STRUCTURES, just as CAREER POLITICAL SCIENTISTS, MEDIA STUDIES WRITERS, AND SOCIAL SCIENTISTS of all types and studies do too! Chomsky is saying look, there is A CONSPIRACY! THE CONSPIRACY is that in our "democracy" , we believe that we are "Free thinking" and "free" from "thought control", when in reality, most of us in this country are locked into "reality tunnels" and systems of thought that are a combo of these problems  A - outdated , B - abuses of language, terms, and faulty logic, or C, essentially propaganda to serve the interests of the FINANCIAL ELITES and their union with the PENTAGON and the supposed "leaders" in government,  who are essentially just bought off by those financial elites.   If we are going to try and say Chomsky is like, tricking us all by saying this stuff, and deceiving us from seeing the real "truth", as you accuse him of?, well i am confused, because what evidence are you presenting to us, as CHomsk has presented through years and years of critical social analysis done scientifically, decades of research and documented well researched writing, what evidence to YOU have to provide a different version of YOUR "TRUTH" ???   do you see what I am saying? He has done years and years and years of proper good research and writing. and then you come on here and quesiton, well you know, hes just distracting us from the "TRUTH" ? what "TRUTH"? there is no "TRUTH". there are many truths, and many realities, and to even try to say there is one "TRUTH" is FOOLING YOURSELF!   although i think you are onto something when talk about how some academics or professional or "leaders" in our society have a core dishonestly. which is why CHOMSY WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. much of what he writes about, if you have read him, he talks about as human beings having critical thought, but also using our critical thought not to exploit others, but to serve a movement or causes based on human rights and social justice. this is what drives CHOMSKY. so i think you are trying to attack his integrity, in a way that shows you don't even understand some of what chomsky is talking about and the core values he espouses very honestly to all of us, and also you haven't made any argument beyond the idea well, ok yeah academics are dishonest, and chomsky appears "dishonest" to you because maybe you don't undersatnd his perspective, and you think there is a "TRUTH" of yours that he his deceiving US from, but then you haven't articulated your argument beyond that!!! you can't just accuse someone of being disingenuous because your version of the " TRUTH" differes from theirs? in fact chomsky is someone who guards against and is critical of indiivudlas who are so dogmatic, like YOU ARE BEING/ you are accusing chomsky of being dogmatic or something when actually may be it is who who cling to some ridgid ideas of how power works in this world, and you don't want to accept that may be the conspiracy you want to see is the conspiracy he describes.   no mean to attack you, i just , i am a jewish smerican who is also a criticla thinker because i was RAISED THAT WAY CULTURALLY. So don't accuse me or chomsky or not thinking things through or being disengenuous, just cuz you don't agree. cuz that's not authentic or showing integrity in you. naw mean?   bboy skitch animal farm dance crew         When finished reading this comic, it made me laugh in a very good and thought provoking way. But it made me think of how funny it would be if Chomsky was actually a machine/man, made by the Pentagon and CIA, to test out theories of social change in human society by introducing this machine/man who provides the people with a platform to analyze critically and become critically aware of the pentagon/CIA’s imperialism and the unholy alliance of multinational global corporate capitalism (financial elites) with the Pentagon/U.S. government/CIA/FBI.etc…..as a way to understand the human populace and to test counterinsurgency on it. hahhaha!  as a trick essentially…or a trojan horse so to speak :> LOL
 
as for an actual serious discussion on CHomsky and his VALUES, in response to what CHAZworth wwrote, i have some interesting ideas to you as I have read chomsky’s work thoroughly,.
Chazworth wrote – “what i do not understand is why he would be so outwardly critical of the system. or is it to make conspiracy people follow him and distract from the truth? one wonders how Helen Thomos was ousted so easy and Chomsky keeps his position”
when i read this, i’m not exactly sure what you are trying to say. you are questioning CHOMSKY’s intentions i guess? CHOMSKY, a scientist but also as  jewish american (i am both also), i understand his perspective because he looks at the world scientifically but grounded in actual science and logic. THis is how he looks at language (and he revolutionized scientific understanding of LANGUAGE back in the 50′s for people who really want to understand who they are talking about.)   anway, many jewish americans (not exclusively jews of course haha) and also scientists look at the world using an scientific method/logical/objective  CRITICAL framework. CHomsky used the same framework/perspective of critical analysis to POWER STRUCTURES ie the poltiical/social/economic power structures in our socities. So i think for someone to wonder to themselves, wow why is this guy so critical? Its because A- Hes a scientist, so he looks at things objectively AND Critically ( basically you as a scientist filter out the illogic or faulty perceptions of reality by doing experiments in sound logic to prove a testable hypothesis. He applied this same of thinking to OUR POWER STRUCTURES, just as CAREER POLITICAL SCIENTISTS, MEDIA STUDIES WRITERS, AND SOCIAL SCIENTISTS of all types and studies do too!
Chomsky is saying look, there is A CONSPIRACY! THE CONSPIRACY is that in our “democracy” , we believe that we are “Free thinking” and “free” from “thought control”, when in reality, most of us in this country are locked into “reality tunnels” and systems of thought that are a combo of these problems  A – outdated , B – abuses of language, terms, and faulty logic, or C, essentially propaganda to serve the interests of the FINANCIAL ELITES and their union with the PENTAGON and the supposed “leaders” in government,  who are essentially just bought off by those financial elites.
 
If we are going to try and say Chomsky is like, tricking us all by saying this stuff, and deceiving us from seeing the real “truth”, as you accuse him of?, well i am confused, because what evidence are you presenting to us, as CHomsk has presented through years and years of critical social analysis done scientifically, decades of research and documented well researched writing, what evidence to YOU have to provide a different version of YOUR “TRUTH” ???
 
do you see what I am saying? He has done years and years and years of proper good research and writing. and then you come on here and quesiton, well you know, hes just distracting us from the “TRUTH” ? what “TRUTH”? there is no “TRUTH”. there are many truths, and many realities, and to even try to say there is one “TRUTH” is FOOLING YOURSELF!
 
although i think you are onto something when talk about how some academics or professional or “leaders” in our society have a core dishonestly. which is why CHOMSY WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. much of what he writes about, if you have read him, he talks about as human beings having critical thought, but also using our critical thought not to exploit others, but to serve a movement or causes based on human rights and social justice. this is what drives CHOMSKY. so i think you are trying to attack his integrity, in a way that shows you don’t even understand some of what chomsky is talking about and the core values he espouses very honestly to all of us, and also you haven’t made any argument beyond the idea well, ok yeah academics are dishonest, and chomsky appears “dishonest” to you because maybe you don’t undersatnd his perspective, and you think there is a “TRUTH” of yours that he his deceiving US from, but then you haven’t articulated your argument beyond that!!! you can’t just accuse someone of being disingenuous because your version of the ” TRUTH” differes from theirs? in fact chomsky is someone who guards against and is critical of indiivudlas who are so dogmatic, like YOU ARE BEING/ you are accusing chomsky of being dogmatic or something when actually may be it is who who cling to some ridgid ideas of how power works in this world, and you don’t want to accept that may be the conspiracy you want to see is the conspiracy he describes.
 
no mean to attack you, i just , i am a jewish smerican who is also a criticla thinker because i was RAISED THAT WAY CULTURALLY. So don’t accuse me or chomsky or not thinking things through or being disengenuous, just cuz you don’t agree. cuz that’s not authentic or showing integrity in you. naw mean?
 
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animal farm dance crew
 
 
 
 

]]> By: Hubris http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-47012 Hubris Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:31:52 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-47012 It scares me that you can so completely believe this propaganda as to attempt to undermine the integrity of someone like Noam Chomsky by linking him to the "illuminati". Do you even know what illuminati means or what their objectives are understood to be? What a load of capitalist misinformation :poop: It scares me that you can so completely believe this propaganda as to attempt to undermine the integrity of someone like Noam Chomsky by linking him to the “illuminati”. Do you even know what illuminati means or what their objectives are understood to be? What a load of capitalist misinformation :poop:

]]> By: this is wrong http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-41939 this is wrong Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:48:26 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-41939 this is bull. chomsky is not a "new world order puppet." you'd might as well suggest that he is an alien in disguise... :alien: :cuckoo: this is bull. chomsky is not a “new world order puppet.” you’d might as well suggest that he is an alien in disguise… :alien: :cuckoo:

]]> By: chazworth http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-41350 chazworth Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:33:01 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-41350 Im not saying your wrong, i always keep an open mind. what i do not understand is why he would be so outwardly critical of the system. or is it to make conspiracy people follow him and distract from the truth? one wonders how Helen Thomos was ousted so easy and Chomsky keeps his position? .... it seems to me that people that think critically could not follow the ideas and mentalities of the new ZioNazi fascists... and this idea that UFO's are responsible for the deviant mentalities of these people takes the responsibility out of the hands of us humans to deal with human aberrant thinking...these people are not unique they are sick mentally and spiritually, they are no better then any religious zealot in past history bent on forcing their god view on everyone else so they feel comforted in their existential fear, and Hitler never believed in god and did the same so its got nothing to do with deities or spirits or people from other worlds... its a human condition gone bizerk...And we need to face it and deal with it and stop being immature psychologically about it becasue you play right into their hands that way and the brain washing we have all been indoctrinated in is hidden even from many of us not so easly duped..we grew up with certain false ideas that are cultural norms and therefor we accepted them as truth and  yet they are aberrant. Many psychologists are successful becasue they teach people to lie to themselves in order to be adjusted to society and fool people into thinking they are happy. most "professionals" are equally sick and do not realize it...But many have perfected the art of deception so well they do it to themselves and then pass on the same tools to others... One fundamental problem is core dishonesty...accepting false ideas becasue they comfort us and this blocks any future discovery of truth.. when you accept an idea that is absolute you end any further investigation. its a survival trait yet leads to distortions of reality. But many people do this becasue they live in fear..and this fear has been exploited by the professional liars and manipulators that now control all major governments and institutions...Look up Happiness machines an Adam Curtis documentary. Im not saying your wrong, i always keep an open mind. what i do not understand is why he would be so outwardly critical of the system. or is it to make conspiracy people follow him and distract from the truth? one wonders how Helen Thomos was ousted so easy and Chomsky keeps his position?

…. it seems to me that people that think critically could not follow the ideas and mentalities of the new ZioNazi fascists… and this idea that UFO’s are responsible for the deviant mentalities of these people takes the responsibility out of the hands of us humans to deal with human aberrant thinking…these people are not unique they are sick mentally and spiritually, they are no better then any religious zealot in past history bent on forcing their god view on everyone else so they feel comforted in their existential fear, and Hitler never believed in god and did the same so its got nothing to do with deities or spirits or people from other worlds… its a human condition gone bizerk…And we need to face it and deal with it and stop being immature psychologically about it becasue you play right into their hands that way and the brain washing we have all been indoctrinated in is hidden even from many of us not so easly duped..we grew up with certain false ideas that are cultural norms and therefor we accepted them as truth and  yet they are aberrant.

Many psychologists are successful becasue they teach people to lie to themselves in order to be adjusted to society and fool people into thinking they are happy. most “professionals” are equally sick and do not realize it…But many have perfected the art of deception so well they do it to themselves and then pass on the same tools to others…
One fundamental problem is core dishonesty…accepting false ideas becasue they comfort us and this blocks any future discovery of truth.. when you accept an idea that is absolute you end any further investigation. its a survival trait yet leads to distortions of reality. But many people do this becasue they live in fear..and this fear has been exploited by the professional liars and manipulators that now control all major governments and institutions…Look up Happiness machines an Adam Curtis documentary.

]]> By: no http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-19634 no Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:52:27 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-19634 you the hell are you to second guess Chomsky. he has real priorities you the hell are you to second guess Chomsky. he has real priorities

]]> By: Julio Tejada` http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-11490 Julio Tejada` Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:23:20 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-11490 It is a moral obligation to inform our families and friends about the chaos the world is just about to face. We have to open our eyes and mind. We know they own the money and power, but we also believe in Jesus, the counterpart of Satan. We all know that there are quite a good number of churches playing the game of the Iluminati and fremasonry..., but they will regret it.... Our Lord said he will always be with us till the end. Sionists are the devil's children... It is a moral obligation to inform our families and friends about the chaos the world is just about to face.
We have to open our eyes and mind.
We know they own the money and power, but we also believe in Jesus, the counterpart of Satan.
We all know that there are quite a good number of churches playing the game of the Iluminati and fremasonry…, but they will regret it….
Our Lord said he will always be with us till the end.
Sionists are the devil’s children…

]]> By: George http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-11484 George Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:15:31 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-11484 love it! love it!

]]> By: venusius http://www.illuminatirex.com/chomsky-pawn-illuminati/#comment-11374 venusius Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:08:02 +0000 http://www.illuminatirex.com/?page_id=971#comment-11374 And the next question, does he realize that he is? And the next question, does he realize that he is?

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